Another one is offered some dust to bite

Highly-paid consultants came in and assessed that pretty much everything
here was bad and especially we need to get away from GroupWise and onto
Exchange. For interoperability (with what besides Salesforce, which we
are not going to use, was not specified). And because Novell is going
to go out of business and Microsoft has 80% of the corporate market.

Please send chocolate.

Mary Wood,[color=blue]

And because Novell is going
to go out of business and Microsoft has 80% of the corporate market.[/color]

Änd 100 billion flies cannot be wrong. Please point them to:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum


Anders Gustafsson (NKP)
The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)

Have an idea for a product enhancement? Please visit:
http://www.novell.com/rms

Hey Mary Wood:
[color=blue]

Highly-paid consultants[/color]

Consultants make suggestions based on:

1 - The products and companies they know
2 - What will make them the most money
3 - What will bring them back in to the customer site


Kim - 12/2/2014 12:43:44 PM

Besides that Mary, like you probably heard from your mother: “If all
your friends jumped off a cliff, would you jump off a cliff too?” (To
add to Anders’ reply)


Kim - 12/2/2014 12:50:38 PM

On 12/2/2014 1:54 PM, Mary Wood wrote:[color=blue]

Highly-paid consultants came in and assessed that pretty much everything
here was bad and especially we need to get away from GroupWise and onto
Exchange. For interoperability (with what besides Salesforce, which we
are not going to use, was not specified). And because Novell is going
to go out of business and Microsoft has 80% of the corporate market.

Please send chocolate.[/color]
Am I dating myself if I can remember the time when no one ever got fired
for specifying IBM? It didn’t matter if it was crap or the IBM
“solution” was the square-peg being pounded into the round-hole; if it
was IBM then it was right.

It’s been a long time since I’ve read or used a consultant contract. Is
there any clause that says the consultant doesn’t get paid if the
consultant shovels crap?

Bob

On 12/2/2014 10:35 PM, Bob wrote:[color=blue]

On 12/2/2014 1:54 PM, Mary Wood wrote:[color=green]

Highly-paid consultants came in and assessed that pretty much everything
here was bad and especially we need to get away from GroupWise and onto
Exchange. For interoperability (with what besides Salesforce, which we
are not going to use, was not specified). And because Novell is going
to go out of business and Microsoft has 80% of the corporate market.

Please send chocolate.[/color]
Am I dating myself if I can remember the time when no one ever got fired
for specifying IBM? It didn’t matter if it was crap or the IBM
“solution” was the square-peg being pounded into the round-hole; if it
was IBM then it was right.

It’s been a long time since I’ve read or used a consultant contract. Is
there any clause that says the consultant doesn’t get paid if the
consultant shovels crap?

Bob
[/color]
How I wish! Additional comments were (with a sneer) “Only schools and,
like, government use it anymore.” “It will be a burden to continue to
keep it working with everything.” “Well, sure, it works on smartphones,
but note that it’s using MICROSOFT Exchange.” (That last meaning
Activesync, I presume.)

::headdesk::

Hey Mary Wood:
[color=blue]

Additional comments were (with a sneer) “Only schools and, like,
government use it anymore.” “It will be a burden to continue to keep
it working with everything.”[/color]

Can they provide the data to support that?


Kim - 12/3/2014 9:28:23 AM

Mary Wood,[color=blue]

“Well, sure, it works on smartphones,
but note that it’s using MICROSOFT Exchange.” (That last meaning
Activesync, I presume.)[/color]

I hope you pointed out to them that a well paid consultant should have
his facts straight and not mix up products an protocols.


Anders Gustafsson (NKP)
The Aaland Islands (N60 E20)

Have an idea for a product enhancement? Please visit:
http://www.novell.com/rms

Mary Wood,
[color=blue]

Highly-paid consultants came in and assessed that pretty much everything
here was bad and especially we need to get away from GroupWise and onto
Exchange. For interoperability (with what besides Salesforce, which we
are not going to use, was not specified). And because Novell is going
to go out of business and Microsoft has 80% of the corporate market.[/color]

Bonus points for that MS shill consultant if, when
saying the name ‘Novell’, he/she made a face that you would make if you
discovered six-month-old potato salad in the back of your fridge.

On 02/12/2014 19:46, kgroneman wrote:[color=blue]

Hey Mary Wood:
[color=green]

Highly-paid consultants[/color]

Consultants make suggestions based on:

1 - The products and companies they know
2 - What will make them the most money
3 - What will bring them back in to the customer site[/color]

2+3 combine to “Will invariably recommend that you use their consultancy
services to install a replacement, as saying what you have is fine would
require an understanding (of what you have) that they lack, and not
bring in any more revenue”

On 02/12/2014 19:51, kgroneman wrote:[color=blue]

Besides that Mary, like you probably heard from your mother: “If all
your friends jumped off a cliff, would you jump off a cliff too?” (To
add to Anders’ reply)[/color]

Quite possibly - if a bunch of people I know and trust do ‘x’, I am
going to wonder what they know that I don’t.

On 03/12/2014 04:35, Bob wrote:[color=blue]

It’s been a long time since I’ve read or used a consultant contract. Is
there any clause that says the consultant doesn’t get paid if the
consultant shovels crap?[/color]

Probably the opposite. A lot of “consultants” get a cut of the
commission for the “referral”

You’re just smarter than they are.


Kim - 12/8/2014 10:48:49 AM