On 15/03/2012 12:04, sharfuddin wrote:[color=blue]
Why this announcement is wrong/bad/unfair[/color]
Actually, there is nothing wrong with this.
If a car manu sends out a press release that their new model is the
world’s fastest, and on a flat track in good weather, it beats the
previous claimant because it has better tires, a bigger engine and a
better digital engine computer than the previous, that’s ok provided
a) they detail their setup so that you can duplicate it
b) they use only components that a purchaser could combine to have
such a system
c) the previous claimant is free to up his game too, add better tires
and upgrade their computer/engine so they can try and beat the new record.
Being the best in the world is often a fleeting joy, as there will
always be someone better in a few weeks or months if you sit on your
laurels.
Perhaps for their next test, Suse should place their server into the
Particle Accelerator ;>
On 3/15/2012 12:29 PM, Dave Howe wrote:[color=blue]
On 15/03/2012 12:04, sharfuddin wrote:[color=green]
Why this announcement is wrong/bad/unfair[/color]
Actually, there is nothing wrong with this.
If a car manu sends out a press release that their new model is the
world’s fastest, and on a flat track in good weather, it beats the
previous claimant because it has better tires, a bigger engine and a
better digital engine computer than the previous, that’s ok provided
a) they detail their setup so that you can duplicate it
b) they use only components that a purchaser could combine to have
such a system
c) the previous claimant is free to up his game too, add better tires
and upgrade their computer/engine so they can try and beat the new record.
Being the best in the world is often a fleeting joy, as there will
always be someone better in a few weeks or months if you sit on your
laurels.[/color]
–
Craig Wilson - MCNE, MCSE, CCNA
Novell Knowledge Partner
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Suggestions/Opinions/Statements made by me are solely my own.
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On 15/03/2012 16:37, craig wilson wrote:[color=blue]
Perhaps for their next test, Suse should place their server into the
Particle Accelerator ;>[/color]
Presumably best to duplicate the hardware and DB exactly, use a tuned
instance of SuSE, and if the test is “really” unfair, we should see SuSE
beat RHEL on its own turf.
Of course, what I EXPECT to see is that they are much of a muchness
and the benchmarks come out near identical - after all, no matter which
linux you choose, the kernel is much the same and tuning choices for an
instance installed with a given load in mind tend to be identical.
Or if all you really care about is getting in the lead again, wait
until there is a faster quad socket machine from IBM, and get your test
result out there before RHEL think to re-test on the newer kit
Oh this is nothing…I read an article on Infoworld yesterday that basically
classed SLES as a second rate OS unfit for large business deployments vs
RedHat. An preferred OpenSuSE for small businesses…while I do think
OpenSuSE is fine for small businesses, I don’t see the appeal of RedHat over
SLES in large deployments.
And in the Linux World, you have so many folks who are Strong Fans of
different flavors, there is no doubt some will prefer one over the other.
On 3/15/2012 12:57 PM, GofBorg wrote:[color=blue]
Oh this is nothing…I read an article on Infoworld yesterday that basically
classed SLES as a second rate OS unfit for large business deployments vs
RedHat. An preferred OpenSuSE for small businesses…while I do think
OpenSuSE is fine for small businesses, I don’t see the appeal of RedHat over
SLES in large deployments.
“Is RHEL is too expensive for your taste? Well, you get what you pay
for, but there are two other worthy business Linux distributions that
deserve corporate attention. These are Oracle Linux and SUSE Linux
Enterprise Server (SLES).”
He makes it quite clear in a few places that he Considers SLES a very
worthy Enterprise Option. Yes he prefers Red Hat, but primarily because
of supposedly greater number of certified engineers and supported
hardware platforms vs a real deep analysis of the OS Itself, which
likely is beyond the author.
On 3/16/2012 11:29 AM, GofBorg wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
Actually, It said it was perfectly fine.[/color]
If you say so. Not the impression I came away with.
[/color]
–
Craig Wilson - MCNE, MCSE, CCNA
Novell Knowledge Partner
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Suggestions/Opinions/Statements made by me are solely my own.
These thoughts may not be shared by either Novell or any rational human.
On 16/03/2012 16:15, craig wilson wrote:[color=blue]
“Is RHEL is too expensive for your taste? Well, you get what you pay
for, but there are two other worthy business Linux distributions that
deserve corporate attention. These are Oracle Linux and SUSE Linux
Enterprise Server (SLES).”
He makes it quite clear in a few places that he Considers SLES a very
worthy Enterprise Option. Yes he prefers Red Hat, but primarily because
of supposedly greater number of certified engineers and supported
hardware platforms vs a real deep analysis of the OS Itself, which
likely is beyond the author.[/color]
I would say that “You get what you pay for” at least implies that a less
expensive option gives you less in return, but I also note that “I
prefer knowing that I have a company behind me, like Oracle, Red Hat, or
SUSE, that has lots of experience in dealing with data-center sized
installations.” sounds pretty good - except I am not sure the Sun guys
(who have the above experience) talk to the Linux guys (who predate the
Sun purchase) very much…
I agree - and I know a bashing is deserved for my next comment - “You
get what you pay for” - so here goes - Take the people who bought into
the Windows Server Arena (BSOD Rules!).
