Cloud question

So there’s been discussions going on here for quite a while now about
whether we should move our file & email services to the ‘cloud’. If we
were to go this way, it would be with micro$oft office 365 e3
(I believe) scenario.

My boss seems to think it will solve any storage issues we have
permanently, which several of us have told him that’s probably not the
case, at least down the road.

It’s been brought up here that having user data in the cloud would
benefit people here that are more mobile, and I agree it probably
would. The kicker is, out of over 750 employees, we have very few that
would realistically need there data this way, and IMO moving everyone
to the cloud for these few is a HUGE amount of work and expense, plus
having almost everyone here encountering a large learning curve on how
things would be done.

Wondering if any of you are doing this, or no people who are, and could
give me some real world insights, pros, cons, etc.


Stevo

Stevo:

Microfocus has created a new discussion group named Microfocus
Support Technical Discussions that’s available to ask such questions
to perhaps a wider audience, though it’s just been created so the
audience might not be so wide quite yet.

That said, you are welcome to continue to ask such questions here,
among your friends. :slight_smile:


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On Mon, 03 Oct 2016 20:52:37 GMT, “Stevo” steveSPAM@LESSccgov.net
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So there’s been discussions going on here for quite a while now about
whether we should move our file & email services to the ‘cloud’. If we
were to go this way, it would be with micro$oft office 365 e3
(I believe) scenario.

My boss seems to think it will solve any storage issues we have
permanently, which several of us have told him that’s probably not the
case, at least down the road.

It’s been brought up here that having user data in the cloud would
benefit people here that are more mobile, and I agree it probably
would. The kicker is, out of over 750 employees, we have very few that
would realistically need there data this way, and IMO moving everyone
to the cloud for these few is a HUGE amount of work and expense, plus
having almost everyone here encountering a large learning curve on how
things would be done.

Wondering if any of you are doing this, or no people who are, and could
give me some real world insights, pros, cons, etc.[/color]

Hey Stevo. We haven’t gone that route. But just a thought, have you
looked at Filr for the users who need remote access? We are using
that here.
Ken


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Susan sounds like they ‘said’:
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Stevo:

Microfocus has created a new discussion group named Microfocus
Support Technical Discussions that’s available to ask such questions
to perhaps a wider audience, though it’s just been created so the
audience might not be so wide quite yet.

That said, you are welcome to continue to ask such questions here,
among your friends. :)[/color]

So my response to Susan’s comment is…

Thanks for the info.


Stevo

KeN Etter sounds like they ‘said’:
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Hey Stevo. We haven’t gone that route. But just a thought, have you
looked at Filr for the users who need remote access? We are using
that here.
Ken
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So my response to KeN’s comment is…

Well that would involve purchasing edir licensing which is out. Also,
how would that work as far as sharing files with people outside of our
organization?

One ‘perk’ of the cloud route being passed around is the ability for
users to share files/folders with pretty much anyone.


Stevo

Hi
What about Owncloud…
https://owncloud.org/


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One of Filr’s features is sharing files both internally and externally, as
I recall:

https://www.novell.com/products/filr/features/help-you-take-back-control.html

A client of mine recently sent me a link to access stuff via Filr; seemed
to work just fine.


Good luck.

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ab sounds like they ‘said’:
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One of Filr’s features is sharing files both internally and
externally, as I recall:

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https://www.novell.com/products/filr/features/help-you-take-back-control.html[color=blue]

A client of mine recently sent me a link to access stuff via Filr;
seemed to work just fine.[/color]

So my response to ab’s comment is…

Good to know, too bad we probably won’t be going back to edir, will be
surprised if we’re still on Groupwise in the next 3-6 months. :frowning:


Stevo

malcolmlewis sounds like they ‘said’:
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Hi
What about Owncloud…
https://owncloud.org/[/color]

So my response to malcolmlewis’s comment is…

The big push for us is m$ licensing (windows, office, etc) and going to
their cloud package will ‘solve all our problems’ according to m$.


Stevo

Stevo:

You’re welcome. I’ve just come to my senses and realized that the new
Business Solutions discussion forum would probably be the better
choice, if you wanted to try the new forums, for the question you
asked.

And, fine to have asked it here. :slight_smile:


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Maybe I’m thick, but I do not think Filr even depends on eDirectory for
its user store, but can use any old LDAP directory. I’m open to being
corrected, but I think that’s the case.


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You’re not thick. It works with Active Directory, NetIQ eDirectory or
a combination of both. :slight_smile:


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On Tue, 04 Oct 2016 13:43:22 GMT, “Stevo” steveSPAM@LESSccgov.net
wrote:
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KeN Etter sounds like they ‘said’:
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Hey Stevo. We haven’t gone that route. But just a thought, have you
looked at Filr for the users who need remote access? We are using
that here.
Ken
[/color]

So my response to KeN’s comment is…

Well that would involve purchasing edir licensing which is out. Also,
how would that work as far as sharing files with people outside of our
organization?

One ‘perk’ of the cloud route being passed around is the ability for
users to share files/folders with pretty much anyone.[/color]

Nope. eDirectory not required. And yes, you can share files with
other people outside your org. You really should check it out.
Ken


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Susan sounds like they ‘said’:
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You’re not thick. It works with Active Directory, NetIQ eDirectory or
a combination of both. :)[/color]

So my response to Susan’s comment is…

But it requires purchasing licensing. We are in a budget crunch so
that won’t be happening.


Stevo

Hi
Nope not April 1st</checks calendar> :wink:

So how much storage do you use (if it’s ok to ask?)…


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Well, it doesn’t hurt to check the product page to see what the full
requirements are. I just know those two. :slight_smile:


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Also, wouldn’t there be licensing for the Microsoft Cloud solution?


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https://www.novell.com/products/filr/technicalinfo/


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Susan sounds like they ‘said’:
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Also, wouldn’t there be licensing for the Microsoft Cloud solution?[/color]

So my response to Susan’s comment is…

Yes there would be licensing for that direction. Budget was submitted
to go one way or the other, all or nothing, and not sure if the number
would cover staying with what we have and including filr or not.

I emailed our contact at cdw to see about a quote, just to see what it
runs per license.

It’s a complicated situation here, moving to m$'s ecs licensing would
probably make things easier licensing-wise, and they’re trying to sell
my boss saying it will be cheaper in the long run, but I don’t believe
that’s the case.


Stevo

If you don’t believe it’s the case, then do a spreadsheet of actual
figures, but don’t be surprised if they ignore it, anyway. Once MS
gets a grip on a decision maker, they don’t let go. They have other
ways of persuading decision makers to choose MS.


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