Guess I should start looking for a new cave…
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Personally… outdated mindless drivel, and I think it’s pretty funny
coming from a guy whose long list of useless certifications basically
state that he’s windows user who knows how to use VMware… aka a
point/click jockey like everybody else, ripe for outsourcing. In other
news: don’t bother becoming an expert in window-washing, bat-file
scripting, or adding stickers to the outside of computer cases. I hope
that free bit of advice helped everybody as much as the article’s.
Oh, and dinosaurs don’t live in caves… those are cavemen. 
I agree with what you say and what do you mean, I take my dinosaur out
for a walk everyday from the cave! lol
ab;2260495 Wrote:[color=blue][color=green]
Guess I should start looking for a new cave…
‘10 Tech Skills Heading the Way of the Dinosaur - 2013 Edition’
(‘10 Tech Skills Heading the Way of the Dinosaur - 2013 Edition’[/color]
(http://www.globalknowledge.com/training/generic.asp?pageid=3487&country=United+States))Personally… outdated mindless drivel, and I think it’s pretty funny
coming from a guy whose long list of useless certifications basically
state that he’s windows user who knows how to use VMware… aka a
point/click jockey like everybody else, ripe for outsourcing. In
other
news: don’t bother becoming an expert in window-washing, bat-file
scripting, or adding stickers to the outside of computer cases. I
hope
that free bit of advice helped everybody as much as the article’s.Oh, and dinosaurs don’t live in caves… those are cavemen. ;-)[/color]
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On Fri, 26 Apr 2013 17:16:02 +0000, shesser wrote:
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I agree with what you say and what do you mean, I take my dinosaur out
for a walk everyday from the cave! lolab;2260495 Wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
Guess I should start looking for a new cave…
‘10 Tech Skills Heading the Way of the Dinosaur - 2013 Edition’ (‘10
Tech Skills Heading the Way of the Dinosaur - 2013 Edition’[/color]
(http://www.globalknowledge.com/training/generic.asp?[/color][/color]
pageid=3487&country=United+States))[color=blue][color=green]Personally… outdated mindless drivel, and I think it’s pretty funny
coming from a guy whose long list of useless certifications basically
state that he’s windows user who knows how to use VMware… aka a
point/click jockey like everybody else, ripe for outsourcing. In other
news: don’t bother becoming an expert in window-washing, bat-file
scripting, or adding stickers to the outside of computer cases. I hope
that free bit of advice helped everybody as much as the article’s.Oh, and dinosaurs don’t live in caves… those are cavemen. ;-)[/color][/color]
A quick read through on this list, actually, I would agree with a fair
amount of what’s been written. It seems strange, though, that this is
coming from a blog from a company that is in the business of selling
training and exam services.
IT training and technical certification has been on a general steady
decline for years. There are a few outliers in the area, but the truth
of the matter is that IT management isn’t generally looking for
specialists. Technology moves too fast for someone’s specialty to be
relevant for any period of time.
So IT management is generally looking for people who demonstrate an
ability to learn quickly, think on their feet, work directly with the
businesspeople they support, and to manage projects effectively and
efficiently. And to learn it all “hands on” without going to a 3-5 day
class. Online training is popular, but only in small segments -
translating a 2-5 day class to an online 3-5 day format generally isn’t
well received. (Of course there is some market for that, just as there
is some market for 2-5 day trainings in a classroom). Learning today,
though, is centered not on content or the classroom, but on the
individual learner. That’s even starting to find its way into
traditional educational institutions.
I hear PMP is big right now for IT professionals. Cloud (obviously) is
also big, whether it’s public cloud, private cloud, or a combination of
the two. Agility is important with the advent of BYOD in the workplace,
as are things like data security (so CISSP should still have a lot of
relevance).
There are exceptions, of course, but in general, as I said, IT
certification and training is down industry-wide.
Consultants, OTOH, do tend to need to have certifications to show they
have met a minimum requirement of knowledge/skills for the products they
work with. But I think even that is on a decline.
Jim Henderson, CNA6, CDE, CNI, LPIC-1, CLA10, CLP10
Novell Knowledge Partner
On 26/04/2013 20:22, Jim Henderson wrote:[color=blue]
IT training and technical certification has been on a general steady
decline for years. There are a few outliers in the area, but the truth
of the matter is that IT management isn’t generally looking for
specialists. Technology moves too fast for someone’s specialty to be
relevant for any period of time.[/color]
Sadly, I find that for recruiting this isn’t true.
What is needed is someone who is multi-skilled OR adaptable - by
analogy, someone whose tent has lots of different poles holding it up,
so if any one pole is no longer supported properly, the tent is still
viable, or someone who can offer evidence of being able to add new poles
when needed.
What is recruited is someone with a specific set and length of poles -
note this is often an exact length, not a minimum (as they are then
“overqualified” and not offered interview)
What is graded to determine the pay grade offered is usually the
length of the longest pole in the set.
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I hear PMP is big right now for IT professionals.[/color]
There is a reason its pronounced “pimp” 
But seriously, yes, project management is now a better paid role than
being able to perform the actual work being managed. I guess the key
word there is “management” - management feel more comfortable paying
more to managers than worker-bees.
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Guess I should start looking for a new cave…
‘10 Tech Skills Heading the Way of the Dinosaur - 2013 Edition’
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I guess I’m in a cave…still living the dream as an ‘IT Generalist’.
On Mon, 29 Apr 2013 11:55:09 +0000, Dave Howe wrote:
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Sadly, I find that for recruiting this isn’t true.
What is needed is someone who is multi-skilled OR adaptable - by
analogy, someone whose tent has lots of different poles holding it up,
so if any one pole is no longer supported properly, the tent is still
viable,
or someone who can offer evidence of being able to add new poles when
needed.What is recruited is someone with a specific set and length of poles -
note this is often an exact length, not a minimum (as they are then
“overqualified” and not offered interview)What is graded to determine the pay grade offered is usually the
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Well, it depends a lot, I think, on who’s doing the evaluation. HR
professionals tend not to keep up with technology (not their thing), so
they ask a hiring manager what certifications a candidate should have.
But the hiring manager isn’t always looking for that, they’re just using
it as a filter for HR.
That’s why it’s important (IMHO) to use an insider to get in rather than
going through the HR “front door”. The front door is going to get people
who have a certification but maybe don’t have the actual skills
necessary, but going through an insider (someone who works at the company
who knows the hiring manager) can bypass that first hurdle entirely.
Jim
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Jim Henderson, CNA6, CDE, CNI, LPIC-1, CLA10, CLP10
Novell Knowledge Partner
Hey GofBorg,
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still living the dream as an ‘IT Generalist’[/color]
Congratulations. I’m still an IT Sergeantist.
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Kim - 2013-04-29 2:02:26 PM
Congratulations. I’m still an IT Sergeantist.
Better than an IT Privatist. : )
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What is needed is someone who is multi-skilled OR adaptable - by
analogy, someone whose tent has lots of different poles holding it up,
so if any one pole is no longer supported properly, the tent is still
viable, or someone who can offer evidence of being able to add new poles
when needed.What is recruited is someone with a specific set and length of poles -
note this is often an exact length, not a minimum (as they are then
“overqualified” and not offered interview)
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I’m an IT Generalist. Been doing it for roughly 30 years. I agree mostly
with the original list. There are of course special exceptions.
Information Security is the way to go. We are fighting a world war in Cyber
Space and it gets bigger and more difficult every day. Cyber Warriors will
always be able to find a job in this field.
And don’t discount the old skills. I have found that many of the best
vulnerabilities come about because software and hardware have been upgraded,
and old problems that were once fixed, now come back, because they are
forgotten with the updates. Using an older browser is often a way to bypass
current security measures.