On 06/11/2014 05:04 AM, grokski wrote:[color=blue]
I seem to struggle to find a more appropriate place to post this so
hopefully someone can either correct me or forward this where it should
Have you talked to your SUSE salesperson about this? They can likely tell
you more about SLE 12 and it options than we can. If you’re part of the
beta then that would be an even better way to ask about the option of
sticking with sysv-init options.
I work with approximately 4000 SLE-licensed systems and in the light of
recent developments around systemd, am very concerned about our future
relationship with SLE products.
It is unknown to me whether SLE 12 will be exclusively systemd-based or
if SysV Init will remain a viable option but the uncertainty is making
The laundry list of issues around systemd is too long to quote here but
I hope SUSE hears this loud and clear:[/color]
Does this laundry list apply to SLE 12 systems, or are they possible
issues that are only seen by other distros but do not apply here?
If SysV Init is not available in SLE 12 and, more importantly, remains
usable (we can autoyast to it and continue using it), we will be
migrating away from all commercial SUSE products before SLE 11 support
No ifs, no buts, no amount of convincing about supposed virtues of
systemd can change this. Not happening.[/color]
That’d be a huge move for sure, and if that’s the line in the sand then so
be it. Still, posting specific concerns as part of the beta, or to a
sales person, or even to the SUSE forums to see if the aforementioned
laundry list applies to you would be interesting to hear about. Since
systemd has been used for openSUSE 13.x for a while now I have not
heard/read many issues there, other than getting used to using the new
commands instead of the old ones. Chances are good that users there
aren’t running thousands of systems as you are, so perhaps it’s a scaling
issue, or integration with software to help manage systems on that scale.
I really hope that someone in SUSE reads this.[/color]
The forums are not officially monitored (with one exception which does not
apply to this situation). If you want to voice your concern you should
use official channels (beta/sales/etc.).
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